Yes! Hi Jason. An excellent review by Mark Bertrand. Never a problem with 3 of the far cheaper TBS Westminster bibles owned. Let me know if youre interested. Here the stitching ran right on the border or to say at the flange edge. and the pain will be a lot less! There are four luxurious ribbons in four colors: green, purple, brown, and gold. Thanks! For instance, I believe it was Jongbloed in the Netherlands that printed and bound the Schuyler Westminster; they also print and bind Cambridge bibles, the new Omega bible by Crossway and if Im not mistaken certain bibles from TBS, maybe even the TBS Westminster? The Schuyler Quentel ESV Black Goatskin can be found on evangelicalbible.com. Photos of all the Canterbury. The three bible options I am considering are as follows: A nice shade I think. I have adjusted pretty well to the TBS Westminister, and can use it while seated now. The current train of thought is that it would be thinner, but nothings set in stone yet. Am not forgetful of the immeasurable worth of His Word. Guide to Using the Westminster Bible Covers the features of this Bible and how to use them. When the bible is opened, the fanned pages show extremely little blueing and a lot of white. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. Of the firms that are marketing bibles and related literature, the quality of service is quite high, especially among the companies and ministries we have been writing about. Now, before any of this took place, noticed that the opening between the liner flanges seem to be a little narrow for the width of the textblock to fit as it should. Translators to the Reader This is my favorite edition of this document. I am also thankful to all of the others who have made comments on this blog. It is 139 pages and is one of the better concordances available in a Bible. The thin gold bridges or has to span the crevasses in the goat skin texture as a good flat substrate is not provided due to the shallow text imprinting. For this reason I usually like the slightly stiffer covers like the calf-split Concord, the calf-skin Clarion, and the TBS Westminster for holding in one hand to read. There are 8 pages of very colorful maps. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. My only complaint with the cover is that it tends to make the leather cracking sounds when moving. Brown, Goatskin, made better than "extremely well." No ghosting through the pages, with references at the bottom of the page. KJVER (King James Version Easy Reader) MEV (Modern English Version) Na - Ni. And just in case anyone is interested, the article below may shed a little light on the owner of Evangelicalbible.com and Schuyler brand bibles. Ill make a post that compares the Schuyler, Allan, and maybe the Clarion (but my Clarion is just calfskin, but we can see the brown compared). The liner is black, which doesnt look as nice as it could have if it matched the cover. Your review is the only one Ive found that lists the writing paper as a feature. I think that if I had problems as John described that the return of the bible would be the proper action. That color is marvelous. Tables of Weights and Measures 5.5 pages of the most comprehensive tables Ive seen in a Bible. It is very soft and the grain is pronounced. Kind Regards to all brothers and sisters in Christ, http://thefoolishgalatian.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/interview-with-paul-cline-of-evangelicalbible-com/. Hi Norm. However this TBS bible is much better than the Windsor or Concord I have from them. Purchased new by me in 225451619637 2. The embossing for the gold impressions on the cover and spine are shallow. Ive been in various fields of manufacturing for slightly over forty years, so these types of things am geared to notice, looking beyond the glitter of goatskin covers, etc. All I wrote was in response to other input and the direction the postings have taken have lead me to believe that at some point someones feelings were injured perhaps by me or perhaps by someone else. All three compare identical with each other. The Schuyler Quentel is on its way to occupying a similar position as the new ESV Quentel joins the line-up. Noticed this on the navy blue sample, but did not realize its implications at the time, just what a poor fit. The KJV is considered one of the most influential and beautiful works of . I found the LCBP Thompson Chain Reference too soft for me as well, that one is going out for re-binding in stiffer calfskin for the reasons I listed. The Westminster Reference Bible is an extensive reference Bible that is very reasonably priced for a Bible printed and bound by Jongbloead in the Netherlands with a soft and luxurious Meriva calfskin cover. Your email address will not be published. . Since I have never held them in my hands I was hoping you could help me. Be going in blind. After a few months I had to get the tape and glue out. Evangelical Bibles customer service was exemplary as usual! Received my replacement Schuyler KJV in black goatskin. Also trent.Im about to sell my new first edotion Longprimer 63. They would only include the chapter that starts on the page, so they would show 39-40. From paper to natural Goatskin, the Schuyler label has determined to carve out a niche which has established itself as a unique label among Bible publishers. Thanks for the help. Free shipping for many products! There is an overcast line of stitching in the front and the back. Heres is their website: http://evangelicalbible.com/shop/. Just some observations: In regards to the paper in the Schuyler, it was brought to my attention that it is not thicker, but heavier or denser, which probably has more to do with not only the weight (gsm), but Opaqueness. You can see more about that here: http://www.tbsbibles.org/articles. Was then able to easily separate each end for about 1.5 to 2 inches inboard in a diagonal manner before encountering much resistance at which point no more pulling back of the flange was attemped or even needed. I did get mine for $50 off original price because a name was misprinted. Its great to hear that you like it. Well I have waited a few days to give a proper opinion of the Schuyler KJV. The art blueing could just as well have been not applied. ZU VERKAUFEN! Integrity of work does matter. If I had those answers, I would imagine that there would be literally thousands willing to pay to consult with me. There also seems to be somewhat of a difference in price between what the customer pays for goatskin vs. calfskin. I had not really considered anything besides a reference addition. The font is a perfect size for me. So in that sense, its not just for me! And this was the reason I brought up the variation of costs of the different materials. Evangelical bible did cover it with a plate that has my name on it. Noticed some slight discoloration?? Used what I thought was a suitable glue and firmly pressed down the flanges against the textblock and let it setup. I could conceivable make gizmo nozzle attachment to inject an adhesive in that area from the end, but just not that energetic for those things anymore!, and it may not pan out that well even with simulated mockup in card paper for trial runs. While disappointing, I could live with that. Schuyler Quentel KJV (when it comes out). I have no complaints in that department and a vast improvement over the navy blue example. One was a family bible that I had rebound in imitation leather and the other was a hard bound bible that was rebound partly in goatskin and imitation leather. My plan was to get a second bible in verse by verse format to use for preaching and use the Clarion as my daily reading bible. I am glad that more publishers are doing this. It has 6 raised ribs. The chapter summaries span the column of text and the references, so they take two columns. Schuyler KJV Canterbury Bible. VENDRE! I briefly consulted the NIV, NKJV, and the NASB in the distant past. I highly recommend the Schuyler KJV Reference Bible to anyone seeking a premium KJV. Not that it really means anything, but suspect that the TBS will not prove as durable in its end page hinges? Also the verses run together making it good for reading but difficult for locating scriptures. You will be notified by email the day your Bible ships out of our facility. KJV Holy Bible, Giant Print Center-Column Reference Bible, Black Premium Goatskin Leather, Premier Collection, 53,000 Cross References, Comfort Print: King James Version by Thomas Nelson 4.8 (1,806) Leather Bound $6438$169.99 FREE delivery Mar 15 - 16 Other format: Hardcover I think that most printing is indeed done overseas, this is due to the lamentable cost of labor and material here in the United States of America probably more than for any other reason. Anyone who in any way promotes the Gospel is in my opinion doing a good thing. Not just the double-column layout and the verse-by-verse line breaks but even the phonetic spelling of supposedly difficult words is maintained. You can see the very distinct difference between these areas on the bottom (good) versus the front (poor) if your sample is like mine and am sure this is no exception. Thank you Randy, and I greatly appreciate your reviews! Money, weights, and measures are keyed with superscript markers. This is a beautiful bible. Im glad to see this document is included. This without any doubt occurred in its manufacture. Free shipping. Here is the personal size version of this Bible. However, Im not at all disappointed with the black, but I would like to see the color Antique Mahogany become a staple in Schuylers line. I find paragraph format to be better for reading, but verse-format is easier for me when using it in Church or study because I can find the verses much faster. So I guess until it does, it is as you so eloquently and humorously put it in harmony with the times. The Schuyler Treveris, named for the British printer Peter Treveris from the 1400-1500's, is a new Bible that was designed primarily to be a reader. I know that there are other ministries and firms other than those I mentioned, and in the Christian Publishing environment, I have yet to encounter a scoundrel though some may exist. The beauty of these two browns made selecting which Bible to take with me to church such an ordeal that I picked up a 53NB and a blue Schuyler KJV for my carries. The first Stridon is in the 2020 NASB. Cambridge Clarion- Always a reader. Feb 24, 2023 | LSB (Legacy Standard Bible) | Featured. The Jerusalem Cross is dry stamped onto the front. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. and which did separate surprisingly easy from the top of the liner flange. Schuyler Personal Size Quentel CSB, Black Goatskin Bible, Zipper Edition - PREORDER. I have a Clarion, Concord, Schuyler, Allan wide margin, longprimer 52, 53, and 63. This makes it very readable. 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I dont want to be a curmudgeon that finds no good thing, but their are definite problems out there for almost every industry. Also, when hand holding the TBS, can insert by big finger between the text block spine and the covers spine!!! KJV Schuyler Treveris Holy Bible Black Goatskin Full Yapp. I believe most of my comments were in regards to the price difference of the materials used and not the overall construction of either bible. The Longprimer looks darker. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Rare OOP Schuyler Reference KJV dark purple at the best online prices at eBay! This would give it some finishing touches like the Longprimer. They havent fully decided on sizes and fonts. Concluded this was from the flexure while hand holding due to the very light embossing of this text. I seen elsewhere your recommendation of a 4 book combination and do concur. 2 year reading plan has a morning and evening reading from two different sections of the Bible. The effect of quality workmanship in this particular concern, as executed properly by Allan and LCBP is that the liner up to the start of the hinge is firmly anchored and is positioned quite close to the adjacent corner of the textblock. I did order a hardback Westminster. I almost always fold back the covers for handheld reading. Yet, history is replete with countless examples where his protection did not extend to the saving of the physical lives of His faithful, even those that sang praises of joy as their lives were extinguished in the most horrible manners and remained steadfast to their final breath. Ive been carrying the Concord, but Ill change to either the Allan or Schuyler very soon. It has verse by verse in double columns and Psalms set to stanzas in a single column. However my issue is that the verse numbers are so small that it is difficult to locate them while preaching. I just meant that it had pages for notes. The cover joint between the spine and front is still of a large radius and the left portion of the front cover stays lifted a little from the textblock. Well, upon a more thorough inspection, things are not that rosy! Hi Seth. Schuyler KJV Canterbury - Overview. Both use the very same text block. It would force more of the research into other books or bibles but that usually happens anyways. There are 200,000 cross-references. Next I wanted to see dimensionally just how much the left portion of the front cover is raised above the textblock when bible is laying down flat. The Canterbury is Schuyler's first originally designed King James Version. Page Size: 6.14 x 9.1 x 1.1 (156 mm x 231 mm x 29 mm) 9 mm yapp. They are printed on thick paper with a dull finish. $57.59. The Mahogany leather of the Schuyler is more of a tan color. The big issue is the ribbons. You could always rebind it later if it does give you trouble. All turned out well with this reconstructive, aesthetic surgery. Thanks for sharing Christopher. Rated 5 out of 5. by Landon Leslie Schuyler Personal Size Quentel ESV, Firebrick Red Goatskin Bible. $177.00 + $5.05 shipping. away from the start of the liner hinge that is not glued down. Scofield Notes) - Goatskin Edition $299.99 $225.00 KJV Large Print Thompson Chain Reference Bible - Lambskin Edition $169.99 $145.00 The Quentel KJV whenever it comes out will have a larger font but then we get into the other concern. . When hand holding with the spine or tailband horizontal and you tilt or rotate the spine upwards toward a ~45 degree angle, either left or right side, you can feel a wobbleness (sic?). I am just happy that we have access to to the large variety and high quality of Gods Word and related literature we have. However, as many people like to take notes in their bibles, I wonder how do the papers compare with ink bleed through, since the paper in the Schuyler is supposed to be denser? Cambridge KJV Concord Reference Bible, Dark Blue Goatskin-RED Letter, Full Yapp. One thing I like about this is that it contains the first chapter that appears and not the first chapter that starts on that page. WordPress writer by day, Bible reviewer by night, pastor all the time. OK! And, I understand that LCBP is a ministry, but in some cases TBS bibles are actually cheaper than the bibles from LCBP. Longprimer- teaching and preaching. Just how much larger in practice is it than the KJV Reference? But, apparently technology has yet to advance to that level. Schuyler has produced the Westminster with all the bells and whistles you would expect in a premium edition - goatskin leather, edge-lined, stitched, art-gilt edges, and 4 thick ribbons. SCHUYLER KJV Canterbury Personal Size Bible (Goatskin Black) Like New! 28 GSM Indopaque Paper. Had debated which color to choose since Evangelical Bible posted their picture portfolio of this new line. This makes them much more readable and usable. Other than that one badly, accordion style, creased page, there seems to be no evidence of any gutter cockling, just as typical as in the TBS Westminster edition. Something a visitor might mistake for shallowness. The only thing that caused hesitation, as I liked the Navy and Mahogany appearances, was the contrasting black liner. That is exactly what I was seeing from the photos. Over two hundred thousand cross-references with good size, clear, readable print in an attractive new setting. Tried to keep this short yet explainable. Ive had mine since Xmas and with daily use it still is in good shape. The only thing Im curious about is their high shipping rates when an order exceeds the $200 dollar level because in my case all shipments (expedited service) have been by USPS Priority Mail which is a flat rate with a quite high weight allowance. Pros Paragraph format with bolder verse numbers would have been nice, but thats a matter of the layout from TBS and their target audience. Or how precious even a mere scrap of a bibles page was to many in Russia and Eastern Europe in the communist cold war era. ESV Schuyler Treveris Holy Bible Dark green Goatskin Full Yapp.