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For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. If they want to protest such an event, please feel free to move their candy butts a mile or more down the road. The point is Jesus not only did not condem it but He said it should not have been left undone. When I told my Church of Christ neighbor that the Scripture tells us to worship God with musical instruments, she said Thats Old Testament, but in the New Testament it says to sing, making melody in your heart to the Lord. And she said that means that your vocal chords are the instrument. No new testament christian anywhere in scripture, that I know of, is compelled to give a tithe. So far newere at IFB church (if is is refered to as one by a IFB site think) & has not as far as I know been told must. Shortly after that, because of his doctrinal preaching, he was forced to leave Salem and went for a short time to Plymouth. They were in fact churches founded on the same New Testament principles that modern day Baptists traditionally founded their churches. 2 talking about this. Im not saying thats the case only sharing my experience & by Gods grace I have done so I believe. The pastor followed up with me with a long phone call, and that is when we began to discuss the baptism issue, he was very cordial and we simply agreed to disagree, which is probably what you and I will have to do. Nowhere in the Bible do I see that Christians are recognized by their clothing. From a Calvary Chapel web site: We do not maintain church membership; You must be born again spiritually to join the church of Jesus Christ, therefore membership is in the whole church of Jesus, not just our local fellowship., This practice stems from their Moses model (top down) style of church leadership. That godly Deacon, so righteous on the outside, may have deep dark unrepentant sins no one know about. KJV Bibles are the best translations because they do not take out the blood of Jesus from scripture as the other versions along with other things. People who study dont fall so easily for false teaching. Others have to a lesser degree compromised the Word of God by their teaching, practices and church polity trying to confront to popular religious tends. Under grace we can give as much as we like. (1 Tim. God has not entrusted that authority to impart salvation to any man or church. I think Calvary Chapel churches are great. 601 1ST AVE SE . But anyway he says that if those folks go to Hell, that their blood would be on your hands. The pastor's name is Kevin Draganac. Jesus quoted the old testament. I assume you are referring to the errant position that many Pastors, Deacons, or Elders have taken placing themselves between God & Man. My sister left the church years ago and is living in sin (even by the standards of other denominations so please dont take it out of context), but I talk to her every day. Thier is nothing harmful in regard sto relating to other denominations if ny that you mean fellowships that are Christian. It is believed that God meant what he said in Revelation 22:18, the Scriptures were not to added to or taken from. Yes, we do preach not to be unequally yolked with non-belivers and I agree with that. He states there were Baptists in England 1400 AD. In examining many so-called early Baptist churches you find many doctrinal errors and false teaching. I thought that this was the passage you were referring to. Select worship style. He said from the pulpit, No one ever asked me if I was a Christian while out in public! Im thinking thats not a good thing. The ones Ive attend are really good. The Independent Baptist believes that to join with churches who teach and practice false doctrine is condone and even show approval of Biblical error and that all doctrinal error is sin. Its derived from two possible origins: 1. I chose to focus on the doctrine of separation as typically understood by Independent Baptists (I was one). In recent years the news media has called doctrinally unsound church such as the Charismatics and Pentecostals fundamentalists. When we arrive in heaven we are going to be surprised not only by who is there, but by who isnt there. Throughout all your conjecture you based none of you opinions on scripture. Filter Churches. Independent Baptist Directory of Churches. A preacher told me once we were not to judge, but that we were to be fruit inspectors. - Truth and Song I recently read an article essentially asking this same question, What's Wrong With the Independent Fundamental Baptists? Thus, the name independent means that the church patterns itself after the New Testament example and stands alone under the authority of the Bible. Furthermore I believe it involved religion. I am personally done with religion If asked what religion I am, my standard answer is christian even though I am still attending a little Baptist Church. It was not the man who founded the church that was important, but the New Testament principles on which he founded this church. We also have a man that shouts Amen as well. Personally, I try to for the most part give as I think God is pleased incl supporting Evangelism Ministrys like Compassion (that not only care for childrens physical need but also spirtual vs. the formerly known as Christian Childrens Fund now I believe under the name Child Aide, mainly becaus eCompassion confesses to be Christian & I believe to support church endeavors. Baptists Briders, infer they can trace their history back to John the Baptist who was the first Baptist. This is the only point that I disagree with of IFB doctrine. I believe that the Bible is clear on what is modest apparel. Ive experienced this kind of power over and over again in the church. Ive told bits and pieces of my story here over the last couple of years, so dont want to travel back through all of that, suffice it to say I left a very legalistic IFB, and now find myself in a tiny, new work that a friend started about 4 years ago (about 20 on Sunday) he calls it a Baptist church, I spoke to him about taking the baptist title out of it, but he wouldnt have it. The Law was done away withperfect love fullfills all the Law was trying to acomplish. I only know of two. However, history does not record even one Anabaptist group or church becoming or founding a Baptist church. They do not accept that authority was given to any particular man, pope, prophet, group or church on earth to be the means of the salvation of men. If someone just wanted to wear their socks and nothing else to Church they would probably not be allowed in most Churches. The one caution I would give is to allow God to speak to you through the scriptures, that is the most critical. this is a great book research on cultist church Proverbs 21:24, Proud and haughty scorner is his name, who dealeth in proud wrath. Thats NOT in the Bible anywhere! Im not sure about this one. He is much better at it than we are. It is in fact Gods Word in 17th century english. Robert Fry - Pastor of Bible Baptist Church in Plattsburgh, NY Deception; 75. When a congregation results from the preaching of the Gospel, authenticating that congregation as a New Testament church rests solely on its doctrine and practice.not in its affiliation. This is the largest christian gathering in the U.S. attracting more than 100,000 last year. Exposing the Dangerous Teachings and Traditions of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination Please scroll down to find a list of articles for your convenience. I should have or you should have? The church I left about 2 years ago had very nasty tracts in the back of the church that said horrible things about other translations, calling them perversions and so forth and actually saying outright lies about other translations. They will not participate, on a church basis, or any outside function with churches which do not also strictly base their faith and practice on the New Testament. It sounds like you believe that we are not required to tithe, but somehow we are better off if we do? You will find, to the left, a tags cloud as well as a category drop down menu. America needs great Independent Baptist churches again. You are correct, I was surprised. 74. The New Testament teaches the absolute autonomy of each local church who is to govern itself as the Word of God instructs free from outside authority and control. The Reformers were those who protested against certain abuses within the Roman Catholic Church. A couple of things. Even if a church blows the interpretation of verses like this and sets up what you refer to as a hierarchy, I feel you are in error to claim that God has no party with them, see for reference the 7 churches in Revelation which had great things going for them, but Christ had to deal with their errors. They are worlds apart. In only a few years however, the church had lost all but ten members to the Mennonites and other groups in Holland. Catholic Influences on the Modern Translations, 66. You dont study enough. These churches appear to have been baptistic and remained sound until Austin, the Catholic monk brought Catholicism to the Isles in 597 AD. What gets my goat on this style of preaching is that as much as these baptists act as though they follow nothing but the scripture, it seems they dont read it or study it much. Jesus didnt find it necessary to dress differently than anyone else, why should the MOG? Im not sure how they upkept thier Synagogue & relate dcostbut if Im not mistaken I learned during a conference that they actually gave more than our equivalent of a tenth in regards to thier goods/wealth (like mince, spices, etc)and perhaps separate monetray covered that cost or these items were bartered/traded to pay bills. It began with a man named John Smyth who was a bishop in the Church of England. I cannot judge this man. KJB,UNAFFILIATED. The Baptist bases his authority solely on the Bible itself. The name Fundamental Independent Baptist is of recent origin and came into being because many modern day Baptist churches compromising the Word of God and teaching and practicing false doctrines. Today we are excited to announce Independent Baptist Churches. Right down to exactly a tenth. The Puritans did not believe in such things and they drove him from their colony. I was able to better understand the New Testament. 6.) @greg Everyone knew this was a farce. Some years ago when I was attempting to find another church for my family to attend so as to escape a spiritually abusive IFB, I found myself at a Church of Christ that had split from the large COC in town. But when we begin to paint entire church groups with the broad brush of generalities then OUR motives become suspect. 4.) Fortunately my current pastor, though still somewhat legalistic, has studied and understands that tithing was for Jews under the old covenant/law, Im just hoping he keeps studying about some other issues, but you know all of us are learning and growing (hopefully). I usually look fwd to these. Nothing comforted. They write new content and verify and edit content received from contributors.